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John Frame on Christians and Political Choices

My friend Tony Reinke shared the following quote by theologian John Frame over at my Church Blog. I think it's worth repeating here:

"...in some cultures (like the ancient Roman, in which the New Testament was written) there is not much that Christians can do, other than pray, to influence political structures and policies. But when they can influence them, they should. In modern democracies, all citizens are 'lesser magistrates' by virtue of the ballot box. Christians have an obligation to vote according to God's standards. And, as they are gifted and called, they should influence others to vote in the same way.

This is not to say that political choices are always obvious. Often we must choose the lesser of two evils. Candidate Mershon may have a better view of one issue than Candidate Beates, while Beates has a better view on a different issue. It is an art to weigh the importance of different issues and to come to a godly conclusion. Each of us should have a large amount of tolerance for other Christians who come to conclusions that are different from ours. Rarely will one issue trump all others, though I must say that I will never vote for a candidate who advocates or facilitates the killing of unborn children."-John Frame, The Doctrine of the Christian Life (P&R 2008). p. 617.

Comments (11)

Hey Josh,

Another interesting post. Just a couple months ago I was struggling over whether to vote or not because of the whole issue about choosing the lesser of two evils -- I didn't want to vote for any evil! I was pretty torn about it. But then God showed me that obeying His Commands shouldn't be seen as a list of things we cannot do, they should be a guide to actually doing something incredible. Here I was thinking about all I could not do and missing the so much more I could do. He showed me that although I may not agree with any of the candidates on everything, and sometimes I may not even feel like I could fully back any of them, I can always back life. Through the way I live and the conversations I have with people I can live for life -- which is even harder than voting for life. I am glad that I struggled over it because if I had felt okay about just voting for a pro-life candidate then I might have settled with feeling like I was doing something instead of really seeking God and getting creative about all that I could do (which I was forced to do because without voting I so felt the need to do something yet felt conviction against the only easy option I saw for making a difference in the election). In your comment on the last blog entry I noticed that you talked about the fact that people's hearts really need to change. I wholeheartedly agree -- too often we blame republican pro-life politicians for not changing everything they could have these last 8 years at their level when, really, how many of us have done all that we could do where God has placed us? How many of us have saved even one life while we expect them to save thousands? I have great conviction that God has called each and every one of us to save lives -- so we are fully able by His grace. So, I'd like to humbly ask you: What would you suggest we can do to change people's hearts and to save lives? I'm making a list that I'd like to be able to share with others with pro-life convictions who want to do something but don't yet know exactly what -- I think that's a big problem in our struggle to win: That we fail to do all that we could because we fail to see all the opportunities God has given us. Prayer is at the top of the list, of course. And I have several practical ideas. But I'm so new to this fight that I'd appreciate and welcome any ideas you or others might have. I want every good idea on my list so I'm asking around instead of just confining it to my own ideas -- I want it to be complete. =)

In Christ,

Nicole

This is an exellent quote. It is so easy during an election to get overwhelmed with all of the issues and policies and not be distracted by the negative ads that swirl around. I too struggled with how to vote, when I wasn't 100% behind anyone. But I finally came to the conclusion that sometimes it comes to deciding who I don't want in office and voting for the other person. I don't have to agree with everything that comes out of a candidates mouth or with everything that a candidate does- but I do have to decide who I think, out of two choices, would best lead our country. It is important for EVERYONE to vote, even if you don't like either candidate. It is a God-given privilage to be able to be a part of this process and it is important, in the end, to decide who we feel we can support in good conscience.

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I do not vote. I believe that God will set in office the man that will do what needs to be done to bring about His will. Dan. 4:17 says that 'The Most High ruleth in the Kingdom of men, and giveth it up to whomsoever HE will'. I do not believe that if I don't vote for the man God wants, that He is going to be kicking Himself saying, 'OH NO!! I didn't think about him doing that, what do I do now?'. Also, if I do vote for the man He want's He won't be saying, 'WOW, that was a close one, good thing he (or they) decided to go that way. I believe that God will use men that WE may think ARE NOT the lesser of two evils to bring about whatever it is that His plan calls for. He know's what need's to be done. However, I will not throw rocks at anyone who does decide to vote.

Shea,
While I empathize with those who feel convictions against voting, I do feel strong convictions to do as much as possible for the well-being of our country and its people. I, personally, think that each one of us has quite a bit of responsibility on our shoulders -- even with elections. I'm not going to encourage you to vote for a candidate. But I do want to encourage you to do what you can to "vote" for what God wants for this country with the way your live your life and also the words you speak and write. I do agree with you that God's Will will ultimately be done in this election -- but I am also reminded of the cities and kingdoms spoken of in the Bible, such as Ninevah, who were doomed to destruction yet who repented so God spared them; and also the peoples who were destroyed in the flood because their hearts were wicked. I don't think that we have to vote a certain way to say to the world that we have good hearts, but I do think that how we vote will prove our hearts before God. And I think that the content of our hearts will literally determine the next leader we have and the next laws that are made (or overturned) and the next events that take place. I don't think that God will be shocked or feel that He is out of control or be nervous to see if we decide one way or the other, vote or don't vote, but I do believe that He will be deeply grieved if we vote for a candidate who would bring forth (more) evil upon innocent victims or if we relinquish our responsibility in this matter to those of the world. May I encourage you to take up the "weapons" He has given you (i.e. convictions, words, opportunities, ability to save lives, personal freedom and influence), summon the will to fight, and join us in this battle for good? I do believe that what we do or don't do will determine what "needs" to be done.

Nicole,
I completely agree with you that we must, as Christians,live holy, God-fearing life for this ungodly world to see. That is of the utmost importance. However, on the voting part, I do believe that the 'lesser of two evils' according to us may not be who God want's. We don't know who God want's in there for sure at any given time. Bill Clinton certainly wasn't the most moral man, but I do believe that he was in there for a reason. God may not always use the 'more moral' man. God knows the man that need's to be in there, I don't always know. If I were to vote for one particular man and another Christians vote for the other, I can't say, 'You didn't vote for who God wanted', just because the other man may be less moral, or anything else. God rose up the king of Babylon and every other king for that matter. Again, Dan. 4:17. America is OBVIOUSLY a kingdom of man, so God will set in whom HE will. I don't believe I can judge who God want's in there by judging the candidates by their character, God is in COMPLETE control. We are in a different Kingdom, an Eternal Kingdom, so I am not so worried about a temporal kingdom. Don't get me wrong, I love America and am thankful for it, but I just don't feel that I should concern myself with THAT part of it. I do believe, like you said, that we MUST be examples in the lives we live and the words we speak/write. We must be living epistles read and known of all men. Thank you for your encouraging words.

Shea,

There's a quote I like that says, "The one condition necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Basically, what I was trying to say was that, I believe that it is time to act, to get involved in this election (even if you don't support a candidate, to do what you can to change people's hearts so that they will not support a candidate that would cost innocent lives -- to yourself support life and morality and the values of the Constitution) because if we don't, then I believe that what is needed will be God's punishment, not just against the wicked ones, but against the righteous ones' apathy.

Nicole,

I do agree with you on that. We must love and support the things that God loves and hate the things He hates. I try to do that with my life. I just, for myself, don't see the necessity on the voting part because whoever God want's is going to get in office. Not because of me, but in spite of me, what I think or what way I vote. I believe the importan part IS holding the truth in righteousness and 'be blameless and harmless, the sons (or daughters) of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world; Holding forth the words of life (in the way we live).' Philippians 2:15-16. My point is that if the way we live our lives, shining the light of the Gospel to this dark world, if that does not change the hearts of the people, then our voting a particular way certainly won't do it. That is assuming that if we did change there minds that they would THEN be voting for the right candidate. Like I said, I do agree with you that we must do all we can in the sense of living the kind of life that would compel those that would have a heart to respond to the Lord's call. I appreciate your for the things of God.

Your DESIRE for the things of God.

With all due respect to Dr. Frame, it seems inconsistent to say on the one hand that "Christians have an obligation to vote according to God's standards" and on the other hand "[o]ften we must choose the lesser of two evils." God's standards do not ever permit the choosing of evil. Compromise is inherent in the nature of politics, and especially voting. And for this reason, I think it is especially the case that Christians ought not to bind the conscience's of their brothers and sisters. Where does Scripture prioritize certain sins? It doesn't. But politics often demands that we do so. Outside the realm of democratic voting, where God's commands are clear, we may/must actively oppose abortion (i.e., adopt, remain chaste, etc.), care for the poor (e.g., extend generosity), love our enemies (e.g., avoid vengeance), and admit no compromise.

Lastly, politics requires a heavy dose of realism, and not idealism. Some things cannot be achieved through voting. While we may derive some sense of satisfaction from "voting against evil," politics is about results, not merely making a statement of approval or disapproval. To vote for a candidate with whom you disagree on an issue is not the equivalent of declaring your approval of the issue with which you disagree. I think many Christians fail to recognize this.

I just read in an online business journal that
McCain's Chief of Staff, Mark Buse, is gay. I think that that means that McCain is a hypocrite about that, and I wonder about what else he really believes in. I don't really know who to vote for, or if I will vote at all.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20080922/mark-buse-039-homosexuality-rumors-controversy-mccain-039-anti-gay-ideology.htm

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