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How to Talk to Girls: Advice from a 9-year-old
I've had several friends email me about How to Talk to Girls, a book written by a 9-year-old named Alec Greven. My friends have either expressed concerned that this book will be a rival to my book
or they've encouraged me to contact Alec and try to set up a joint speaking tour. I'm open to a tour, but I'd be scared of being stampeded by thousands of Alec's pre-teen groupies. I am hoping, however, that some people, after reading Alec's advise and getting burned out on hundreds of crushes, will then be open to reading my book. Okay, so maybe that is unlikely. I will say that I'm thinking about buying this book for a few guys I know in their late-twenties. The advice about not being too hyper and not waving their arms like a crazy person could really help them out with the ladies. And I'm indebted to Alec for arming me with a response for all the guys who have blamed me and my book for making it hard for them to get dates: "Life is hard, move on." Thanks, Alec.
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Comments (22)
Oh man...oh man...oh man...
::deep breaths::
That is too funny dude.
Maybe I need to cut down on the arm flapping...just somethin' to pray about I guess...
:-)
Posted by Josiah | December 6, 2008 2:29 PM
That's kind of scary that they let a nine-year-old write a book like that--lol. My brothers are 10 and 12 and they're not even thinking about girls yet.
Posted by Elizabeth | December 6, 2008 2:52 PM
Classic. He's going to give you a run for your money, Josh! You should definitely see about including the arm-flapping advice in newer prints of your books.
Posted by Marshall | bondChristian | December 6, 2008 6:50 PM
Lol, so thats wot i was doin wrong, thanks alec i may have to purchase ur book. Gr8 life moto, 'life is hard, move on'. how tru and practical
Posted by Michael | December 7, 2008 8:50 PM
that is funny at the same time scary! coming from a 9 year old. OMG!!!
Posted by Y | December 9, 2008 5:42 AM
Good grief!!! A nine year old is giving advice like that!!! The really funny thing is that for the most part he's on target!!! LOL I was laughing really hard by like the fourth sentence out of his mouth!!!! Your advice that you give in your books are still the best though.. so I don't think you have to worry to much. : ) praying for you.
Posted by Anna | December 11, 2008 5:05 PM
This kid is using his genius for bad!
Posted by Anoumos | December 11, 2008 5:26 PM
This boy is too cute. I kind of wish I had a daughter his age to date her. He is going to be one heart breaker though.
Posted by Vicki | December 12, 2008 8:52 PM
Thanks for posting this Josh, I think it made my day. I find this terrifying and encouraging all at the same time. Terrifying in that he's to young to have it figured out, and encouraging in that a lot of what he's saying is true. I can't believe with all my analytical and logical capacity I've managed to miss this tip: stick with the "regular" girls! ;-)
Posted by Drew Tufano | December 18, 2008 4:57 PM
you know what i think i think your wrong life is hard move on.
i think your wrong because, i am working towards a girl wich dumped me once for nothing and know she wants me back so she saw her mistake and any way how can you know stuff about girls when your a boy and also your age is too small how can you even know wat the word girls means i mean your just a child im a teen and i am only a begginer lover
Posted by loner | December 19, 2008 12:23 PM
I hope you meant the "response for all the guys who have blamed me and my book for making it hard for them to get dates: 'Life is hard, move on.'" in jest.
Your book has certainly done that both in a good way and bad way. Sometime young people that shouldn't be dating didn't. Then as people were older and mature they didn't date when the should have been. As some say, they learned to avoid relating vs. learning how to relate. Maybe that is why you might need to give this book to some guys in their late 20's as you said.
It was amusing seeing this kid. He had some good points especially for someone his age.
Posted by Steve | December 19, 2008 11:49 PM
Steve,
Yes, I was joking about telling guys "life is hard" move on. I do get some guys who had girls "turn them down" and who then blame me for it which I think is a little funny.
But you're right. I do think some people have avoided relating to others and that obviously isn't good. If my book is the cause of all the men in the world who don't have the courage or skill to pursue godly friendship and relationship with women, I'd be really bummed!
Thanks for your comments. God bless you!
Joshua
Posted by Joshua Harris | December 20, 2008 9:23 AM
Josh
Thanks for clarifying this.
I certainly wouldn't say that your book has "caused all of the men" to lack courage to pursue a single woman. I would say that your book and the "kissing dating goodbye concept" (that was introduced in places even before you were born) has been a significant contributor to this problem. One woman who was in her 20's when your book came out and had its prominence that is gave the single men in their 20's an excuse for not relating with single women.
I remember visiting various churches. You could usually tell if they had the "kissed dating goodbye" philosophy at that church; the single men and women were so shy towards each other one could almost say they were "afraid" of each other. My recollection is that the singles in their 20's were interacting more like those in their teens vs. more mature singles.
Unfortunately those that promote "kissing dating goodbye" don't appear willing to admit the problems this concept has caused over the years or its defects.
Posted by Steve | December 20, 2008 1:09 PM
P.S.
I am curious as why you seemed to think I was referring to "all the men in the world who don't have the courage or skill" when you said initially about "for a few guys I know in their late-twenties?"
I figured that these "guys" were probably in your church and had grown up with the IKDG philosophy.
Posted by Steve | December 20, 2008 10:00 PM
Steve, I hope I'm not out of line to comment on your discussion... but I would like to share a few thoughts. I am one of those singles who embraced the "IKDG philosophy", but the Lord did point out to me that I am often times unwilling to relate to the opposite sex. This is, however, not the result of reading IKDG - it's the result of my own fears and insecurities...
I think many people (myself included) struggle to find a healthy balance: in this case to still guard your heart and protect your Christian brothers and sisters and at the same time to have godly friendships where we can uplift and encourage each other.
In my opinion this struggle is not the result of IKDG, but rather deception and fear caused by our Enemy. He either wants us to be selfish or impatient and to pursue relationships that is not God's best for us, or to be too afraid to let anyone close...
I think IKDG helped many people to see that God has something much bigger and better planned for our lives than the world and culture has to offer. However, many still carry the doubts, fears and scars of past damage. I can see how some can use IKDG as an excuse for not relating to the opposite sex - but that is exactly what it is:an exuse.
Craig Hill of FFI Ministries says that the truth is often like a road with two ditches on either side: two extremes that are only in part related to the truth.
What singles need is the Holy Spirit to show them the truth, and freedom and healing from God. Only when I received that healing and freedom from Christ, I started to let people closer and am happy to say that I now have guys in my life that I can call my brothers.
The problem is not the concept of IKDG - it is that many people are still in bondage of the lies of the devil and their own hurt.
I didn't mean to argue with you or offend you. But I know what it's like to live in bondage and then to receive freedom and I would love for others to experience it too.
Blessings,
Lilly
Posted by Lilly | December 24, 2008 11:00 AM
Lilly
I would be careful assuming that your personal issues (you indicated "was result of my own fears and insecurities") are what cause all people to act the way you did. I won't question what you feel what caused your actions but don't think you should assume what caused your it what causes others to act that way also.
I don't want to oversimplify this and will admit there can be various cause for people being relationship shy of the opposite sex. But, when I see a significant difference in how singles relate in "kissing dating goodbye" groups vs. other groups I am not sure what other conclusion I might reach. My thought is that the "kissing dating goodbye" philosophy despite it being well intentioned has lead to the situation of single men and women almost being afraid of each other.
What else would be the major cause of the "lack of freeness between men and women in cultivating friendships", "standoffish" and "tightness" that Josh Harris described existed at his own church that was shared on his "update" messages? Maybe it could be something else? I am sure that "kissing dating goodbye" isn't the only cause.
It also may be possible that the "kissing dating goodbye" environment might have helped to feed your "fears" or allowed them to hide vs. forced you to address them? Only you really know the answer to this.
I agree that there needs to be as you say "healthy balance." To use Josh Harris's own shopping cart illustration, sometimes I wonder if "kissing dating goodbye" just makes the drifting shopping cart veer to the other side. Are we fixing the swerving shopping cart or just changing the direction it swerves? Unfortunately, at least some of the time, it can be imbalance in the opposite direction. One needs to be aware of this tendency and try to correct it either way it goes.
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